Only 40 miles but a world away
I am genuinely puzzled. The York Press is owned by Newsquest and is a horrible, liberal, wishy-washy rag covering such great subjects as single mothers wanting a big house for free and being politically biased in favour of anyone or anything who likes immigration, drug addicts, teenage criminals and social workers. By the same token, The Northern Echo is owned by Newsquest and concentrates on reporting crime, trials, lawlessness and allows members of the public to express their opinions without censorship.
Take, for example, these letters in the Echo. They would surely not have been printed in The Press, and if they had, would have been attacked by the wishy-washy, liberal fools who are responsible for this country being at the mercy of hoodlums and thugs. It is noticeable that in the comments section, there is a welcome lack of do-gooders rallying around the scrotes offering lists of excuses.
Lawlessness
I TOTALLY agree with A Cunningham’s observations (HAS, Apr 9) and those of other contributors regarding the gross indiscipline of a minority of our youth who get their kicks out of intimidating the old, weak and vulnerable.
The latter have to lock themselves in their homes every evening, dreading the feral yobs roaming the streets, while our “invisible” police are writing out numerous reports to meet facile targets.
Turn the clock back 50 to 60 years in some mining village. Any such threats and intimidation and the yobs would have been met by a few miners who would have informed them in a firm manner to mend their ways.
If they were arrogant or stupid enough to ignore this warning, the next meeting would result in a much sharper lesson. The result - no more trouble and people would be able to walk the streets in safety.
In St Paul’s Cathedral, London, there is a plaque to Sir Christopher Wren: “If you want to see his good works, look around you.”
To the woolly thinkers and liberalminded do-goodies, look around and see the lawlessness ruin you have contributed to.
If those miners of yesteryear were here today I assume they would be the ones arrested and punished.
T Jackson, Durham City.
Perfect sense from Mr Jackson. Exactly the sort of thoughts that are suppressed by our local paper in case they offend some poor drug addict who needs “understanding” instead of a prison sentence.
HOW much longer are we supposed to put up with the lawlessness occurring all over this country?
We hear about all sorts of despicable crimes being carried out by feral and uncontrollable cretins who have now appeared in society, apparently totally disregarding any boundaries whatsoever, with their so-called parents appearing to have the same disregard for anyone else.
Just what are our leaders doing to halt this mayhem? Apparently nothing. Politicians, judges, top policemen, higher echelons in the civil service - none have any idea what’s happening in the real world, the one we have to live in.
advertisementIf a political party was to emerge which included in its manifesto correct laws and punishments for these vermin, who literally laugh in the face of justice, I and a lot more people would vote again because in the present malaise so many folk are sick to the back teeth of the lack of action by the authorities.
If this situation isn’t rectified quickly I can see the time when we will have certain groups taking matters into their own hands. Then what? Next stop anarchy?
A Cunningham, Willington, Co Durham.
Posted by: David, London on 6:25pm Wed 9 Apr 08
Is it possible to literally laugh in the face of justice? If so, then I say bring back the borstal.Posted by: David Lacey, Newcastle on 12:21pm Thu 10 Apr 08
Corporal punishment used to work. The birch was a brutal but effective way of stopping feral youths from reoffending. Its loss coincided with an explosion in street crime. Bring it back NOW!Posted by: anon, D’ton on 1:59pm Thu 10 Apr 08
Because of soft courts and the human rights acts which only gives rights to criminals and terrorists, things have only got worse over the past 10 years. In some of the Talkback sessions held over the town, pensioners have said that they have been verbally abused by pupils from a nearby junior school. The little brats have told the OAPs you can’t do anything nor can the police touch us because we’re under age. Time they were told about their responibilities not rights, and what happened to the part of the Children’s Act that said, if children are seen be out of control of their parents than they can be taken into care by the local authority. Though they and their parents have another excuse not it’s lack of fish oil and the additives in food. Things were never as bad as this, and there weren’t as many excuses a decade or so ago. As for bringing back Borstals, they never went away, they are called Youth Offending Institutions. The first was at Borstal in Kent many years ago, the nickname Borstal as stuck, hence you will get sent to Borstal. What has changed is the discipline imposed there was no computer games etc in those days, and a strict military type regime was imposed.Posted by: anon, D’ton on 2:11pm Thu 10 Apr 08
When you have small school-children verbally abusing pensioners, who live near their school. And they tell the pensioners that the law etc can’t touch them because they are too young. We can see what’s gone wrong from an early age to much of rights and not responsibilities. As for Borstals they haven’t gone away. The correct name is Youth Offending Instition. The first one was at Borstal in Kent many years ago, hence they are often wrongly called borstals. What has changed is the once strict military regime of these places, now the young inmates can be on computer games etc instead of doing something useful.
Maybe they just make ‘em tougher in the North-East?
See you soon…
April 16th, 2008 at 05:23 pm
Hi Rust’, I’ve just been on the Northern Echo site and it’s just as you say.
The “Bishop warns about BNP” posting is full of people saying they are fed up with mainstream politicians and hardly any letters slagging the BNP off.
Do you think there is a co-ordinated group of people in York who bomb the Press whenever there is any mention of immigration?
April 16th, 2008 at 06:31 pm
Absolutely. No doubt organised by someone of the ilk of that lefty idiot Ben Drake.
April 16th, 2008 at 08:17 pm
Geez Rust, if you think the Press is a lefty-infested rag, then I”d hate to hear what you think of a real lefty paper like the Independent or Guardian?
Seriously, York Press sits to right of centre in my book? A scummy sensationalist rag with no conscience of any sort.
April 16th, 2008 at 08:21 pm
I absolutely agree it’s organised, but noticeably once the right wing start to get the upper hand in the posts, all are removed. It’s typical left wing tactics, and in my view a denial of democracy and freedom of speech. You can see it happening now in the latter posts of the Press Forum in the “Demolition man” posts, and Rust used to get it on his Press blog. Bomb is the right word.
It’s difficult to believe the Press and the Echo are owned by the same company.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:24 am
Good call Bemused, thats exactly what happened. That thread was pulled this morning.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:30 am
“The right wing”? It’s not a football game… lol.
Just a rabble of people with their differing opinions, and the two local BNP advocates are always going to be drowned out by the majority with their range of different views.
I still contend the Press is not a leftie paper, it’s just subject to the personal whims of a heavy handed website admin more concerned with keeping the cash rolling in (perhaps through various paper bags) than with any strict particular political agenda.
April 17th, 2008 at 01:57 pm
Cheers, could’ve just been that problematic server/cache refreshing thing, eh
April 17th, 2008 at 03:08 pm
Just ignore me - I thought I was commenting all on the one story, but my comments slipped across two different ones…
April 17th, 2008 at 08:03 pm
So let’s get this straight. The theory is that the comments always get pulled when the right-wing “start to get the upper hand in the posts” because the Press is a leftie liberal monster. Which is bad, apparently.
And there is a big organisation of leftie liberals co-ordinating a “bombing” of the comments and forum every time something controversial comes up. Which is also apparently bad.
So how come that thread was pulled when the lefties were “bombing” the thread as described by Bemused. Wouldn’t the big bad do-gooder Press be keeping the liberal bombing comments in keeping with their horrible liberal leanings?
Which is it, folks? I mean, come on, you need to get your delusions in order.
April 17th, 2008 at 09:17 pm
Come on for god’s sake. Everytime a decent political debate starts on the Press site it gets removed.
What sort of a name is “Rustwatch” meant to be anyway? Sounds like a stalker to me?
April 17th, 2008 at 09:24 pm
“What sort of a name is “Rustwatch” meant to be anyway? Sounds like a stalker to me?”
Think you’ve hit that nail on the head for sure, and you’re right about decent political debate on the Press site as well.
April 17th, 2008 at 09:31 pm
It’s like when Steve had his blog on The Press site, some people just couldn’t help themselves.
Anyway I’m glad I found this blog. Has it been offline or just moved addresses?